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Poster: hseamons Date: Sep 22, 2011 12:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news - CRAZY (TRUE) STORY.

NO! It is not simply regurgitation because so much in a dream is radically different and reflects environments and people we have never encountered. IT INVOLVES IMAGINATION TOO! I had this one beautiful dream where I was laying on the very edge of a mountain, the drop-off was to my very right, and a pool of water at the very left. There was a waterfall coming down the mountain and there were stars in the sky. Very heavenly feel to it.

Last night I recall a dream where I was at a party - again I have lots of "large gathering" dreams - and I had a white umbrella that folded up in a very star-like way. I would open it up and spin it in the air, and sometimes almost hit people with it accidentally. Later, my brother walks up to me in my dream with a small box of small, round buttons, or pins to wear. I noticed a bunch of them were just white circles. Another one was a half-black and half white circle with a silver edging around it, which was the one I picked. There were also yellow buttons and other colored buttons.

What's weird about all of this is that I just this week started reading a book by Jung where he talks about mandalas and circular shapes as being symbolic in dreams of the inner self. I thought that I never really have mandala dreams, just all these large crowd dreams. BUT THEN - LAST NIGHT - the white umbrella and the buttons manifest as very symbolic realities in my dream, which Jung would relate to the mandala as an ancient, oft-recurring spiritual/psychological image that appears in our dreams. But maybe I am only dreaming these circular symbols because I'm reading about them now - or maybe - JUST MAYBE - Jung is teaching me to notice them more in my dreams.




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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 22, 2011 11:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news - CRAZY (TRUE) STORY.

I didn't say dreams just regurgitation - I said that small snippets of information that our brain files away probably explain a lot of the supposed coincidences in dreams. Of course dreams also involve imagination! What I am saying doesn't mean they don't have any meaning; it just means they probably aren't actually prophetic or anything - the appearance of this is usually our minds playing tricks on us. They still have a lot of personal significance.

Your dream sounds pretty cool. I do think you're likely dreaming about mandalas because you're reading Jung; but if you're into that stuff, I don't expect you to see it my way :)

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Poster: hseamons Date: Sep 22, 2011 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news - CRAZY (TRUE) STORY.

Why do you not dig Jung, overall? Is there a specific psychological viewpoint/theory you prefer instead? I'd love to hear about it. I am not a "Jungian" by any means, but I find a bunch of his ideas helpful.

Also, I agree that dreams are generally not "prophetic," but I think they often can be revealing in terms of connecting us with a larger, interconnected psychic reality. I don't think we are wholly isolated in our interior world.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 22, 2011 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news - CRAZY (TRUE) STORY.

Oh, I agree we are connected psychologically, I just don't care for the mystical stuff in Jung.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Sep 22, 2011 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: breaking (up) news - CRAZY (TRUE) STORY.

REM also means Rapid Eye Movement and going into the dream state. I'll have to talk to Don Juan & Don Genero about that tonight